Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/27/2023 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:01:07 AM Start
09:02:35 AM HB79
09:18:07 AM Presentation: Governor's Amendments to Fy 24 and Fy 23 Supplmental
09:43:18 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 79 APPROP: SUPPLEMENTAL TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 79(FIN) Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
Overview: Governor's Amendments to FY24
Operating & FY23 Supplemental
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      March 27, 2023                                                                                            
                         9:01 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:01:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman called the Senate Finance Committee                                                                            
meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Neil Steininger, Director, Office of Management and Budget,                                                                     
Office of the Governor; Deb Etheridge, Director, Division                                                                       
Public Assistance, Department of Health.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Cori Mills, Deputy Attorney General, Department of Law.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 79(FIN)   APPROP: SUPPLEMENTAL                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
               CSHB 79(FIN) was REPORTED out of committee                                                                       
               with a "do pass" recommendation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: GOVERNOR'S AMENDMENTS TO FY 24 and FY 23                                                                          
SUPPLMENTAL                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman discussed  the agenda  and introduced  the                                                                    
presenter.  He asked  the presenter  to briefly  explain the                                                                    
Supplemental Budget.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 79(FIN)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  supplemental appropriations  and other                                                                    
     appropriations;  making appropriations  under art.  IX,                                                                    
     sec. 17(c),  Constitution of the State  of Alaska, from                                                                    
     the constitutional  budget reserve fund;  and providing                                                                    
     for an effective date."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:02:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NEIL STEININGER, DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE  OF THE  GOVERNOR, introduced  himself and  explained                                                                    
that  HB  79  was  a  fast-track   supplemental  budget.  He                                                                    
explained  that  the  supplemental  budget  addressed  needs                                                                    
within the  current fiscal year  that had emerged  since the                                                                    
time the  budget was initially appropriated.  He stated that                                                                    
the  fast-track  supplemental  addressed urgent  needs  that                                                                    
could  not wait  until  the end  of  the normal  legislative                                                                    
budget cycle.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  addressed  a  presentation  entitled  "Fast                                                                    
Track Supplemental Budget HB 79 and SB 76" (copy on file).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger turned  to slide 2 and spoke to  a table that                                                                    
gave  an  overview of  the  FY  23 fast  track  supplemental                                                                    
budget. There was a summary  of the appropriations that were                                                                    
included in the bill, which totaled approximately                                                                               
$5 million in undesignated general funds (UGF):                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
     FY2023 Fast Track Supplemental Budget                                                                                  
     Operating                                                                                                                
     Office of Public Advocacy - $3,110.2 UGF                                                                                   
     Public Defender Agency - $1,583.8 UGF                                                                                      
     Public Assistance Field Services - $3,088.7 UGF                                                                            
     $3,733.0 Federal Funds                                                                                                     
     Medicaid Services - -$3,088.7 UGF                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     HB79/SB76 Total - $4,694.0 UGF $3,733.0 Federal Funds                                                                    
     $8,427.0                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:04:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman noted  that the  slide  showed a  negative                                                                    
$3,088.7  for Medicaid  Services. He  understood that  there                                                                    
had been an acceleration in  Medicaid claims coming into the                                                                    
state  in  the past  month.  He  asked about  the  projected                                                                    
estimates for Medicaid  and what the state planned  to do if                                                                    
funds came up short.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger relayed  that  the  most recent  projections                                                                    
showed  approximately  $10  to  $11 million  in  excess  UGF                                                                    
funding within  the program. He  said that the  $300 million                                                                    
represented about a  day's worth of funding  in the program.                                                                    
He  said  that the  administration  was  confident that  the                                                                    
funds would be available for the transfer.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:06:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked Mr.  Steininger to  get back  to the                                                                    
committee towards  the end of  the budget cycle in  the case                                                                    
that there was a shortfall in the funding.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:07:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  requested that OMB  provide details  on what                                                                    
was driving the accelerated Medicaid rates of use.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  agreed to provide  an updated  projection of                                                                    
the Medicaid program at a later point in the session.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:07:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger referenced slide  3, "Dept. of Administration                                                                    
- Legal and Advocacy Services,":                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     FY2023 Fast Track Supplemental Budget                                                                                  
     Office of Public Advocacy                                                                                                
     HB 325 Supplemental - $2,285.2 UGF                                                                                         
     Contractor Rate and Cap Increase - $825.0 UGF                                                                              
     Office of Public Advocacy Subtotal - $3,110.2 UGF                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Public Defender Agency                                                                                                   
     HB 325 Supplemental - $833.8 UGF                                                                                           
     One-time Backlog Contractor Support - $750.0 UGF                                                                           
     Public Defender Agency Subtotal - $1,583.8 UGF                                                                             
     Legal and Advocacy Services Total - $4,694.0 UGF                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  relayed that there  was a backlog  in trials                                                                    
related to the Covid-19  pandemic. He related that resources                                                                    
were necessary to respond to the backlog.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:09:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger reviewed  slide 4,  "Department of  Health -                                                                    
Public Assistance Backlog.":                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     FY2023 Fast Track Supplemental Budget                                                                                    
     Public Assistance Field Services                                                                                           
     Medicaid Eligibility Redeterminations and Public                                                                           
     Assistance Program - $3,088.7 UGF $3,733.0 Federal                                                                         
     Funds - $6,821.7 Total                                                                                                   
     Medicaid Services                                                                                                          
     Transfer to Public Assistance Field Services - -                                                                           
     $3,088.7                                                                                                                   
     Department of Health Total - $0.0 UGF $3,733.0 Federal                                                                     
     Funds $3,733.0 Total                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:11:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson asked when the  SNAP program backlog would be                                                                    
resolved  and  when  people could  expect  to  receive  SNAP                                                                    
benefits so they can buy food.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger deferred to Director Etheridge.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:11:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEB   ETHERIDGE,  DIRECTOR,   DIVISION  PUBLIC   ASSISTANCE,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH,  relayed that  there was  a dedicated                                                                    
team  of individuals  working on  the staff  recertification                                                                    
backlog.  She expected  the work  would be  done within  the                                                                    
next two months.  She lamented that a cascade  of backlog in                                                                    
all programs was posing a challenge to the division.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson  surmised  that people  could  expect  their                                                                    
benefits to resume in June 2023.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Etheridge  replied that several measures  had been taken                                                                    
to stop  the growth of  the backlog, which was  comprised of                                                                    
some 2,000 cases. She relayed  that it would take two months                                                                    
to be fully out of the backlog.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  for   Mr.  Steininger  to  discuss                                                                    
Section 5  of the  bill, which contained  the Constitutional                                                                    
Budget Reserve (CBR).                                                                                                           
Mr. Steininger  explained that  the other  body had  added a                                                                    
section  to the  bill  that  had not  been  in the  original                                                                    
submitted by the  governor.  He explained  that the language                                                                    
was  necessary  to  ensure that  the  original  supplemental                                                                    
appropriations were funded.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:14:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked about line 30,  which stipulated the                                                                    
appropriation was not to exceed $115,000,000.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  explained that the bill  included roughly $5                                                                    
million  in  General  Fund supplemental  appropriations  and                                                                    
when   the   other   supplemental  appropriations   in   the                                                                    
traditional supplemental bill were  added the total was $115                                                                    
million.  He  said  that  the   language  ensured  that  all                                                                    
supplementals were  funded. He said that  the administration                                                                    
was comfortable  using the CBR to  fully fund appropriations                                                                    
in FY23.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:15:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:16:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:16:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  appreciated the  work that  had been  done on                                                                    
the  bill. He  thought the  request  to catch  up on  public                                                                    
assistance backlogs should be the priority.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:16:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl MOVED to report  CSHB 79(FIN) out of Committee                                                                    
with individual  recommendations. There being  NO OBJECTION,                                                                    
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 79(FIN) was REPORTED out  of committee with a "do pass"                                                                    
recommendation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:17:24 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:17:48 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  GOVERNOR'S AMENDMENTS  TO  FY 24  and FY  23                                                                  
SUPPLMENTAL                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:18:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger discussed a  presentation entitled "March 7th                                                                    
and 22nd Budget Amendments SB40,  SB41, SB42 and SB54" (copy                                                                    
on file).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger showed slide 2,  which covered the amendments                                                                    
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submitted by  the governor on  March 7   and March 22.   The                                                                    
amendments   were  related   to  the   governor's  education                                                                    
package:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
            th                                                                                                                
     March 7 Amendments                                                                                                       
     FY2024 Operating budget (SB40)                                                                                           
     Education and Early Development                                                                                          
     Alaska   Native   Science    and   Enineering   Program                                                                    
     Partnership                                                                                                                
     $4,000.0 UGF Permanent Full-Time Positions 0                                                                               
     Alaska Resource Education Center                                                                                           
     $1,000.0 UGF Permanent Full-Time Positions 0                                                                               
     Career and Technical Education Incentive Grants                                                                            
     $3,000.0 UGF Permanent Full-Time Positions 0                                                                               
     Teacher Recruitment, Retention and Certification                                                                           
     Support                                                                                                                    
     $3,000.0 UGF Permanent Full-Time Positions 0                                                                               
     Alyeska Reading Academy and Institute                                                                                      
     $5,000.0 Permanent Full-Time Positions 12                                                                                  
    Total - $16,000.0 Permanent Full-Time Positions 12                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  related that the supplemental  requests were                                                                    
for  DEED and  were also  related to  a recently  introduced                                                                    
piece of legislation related to teacher retention.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:20:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   asked   about  budget   and   amendment                                                                    
timelines.  He  wondered   whether  the  legislature  should                                                                    
expect additional amendments.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Steininger   described   the  budget   and   amendment                                                                    
timelines.  He  admitted  that  the  March  amendments  were                                                                    
issued after the normal deadline.  He offered an explanation                                                                    
and understood that consideration  was being requested after                                                                    
the deadline.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   added  that   it  was  common   for  the                                                                    
administration to  submit amendments after the  deadline and                                                                    
were always considered by the  legislature. He asked whether                                                                    
the  amendments  would  be   necessary  if  the  legislation                                                                    
containing  the  appropriations  did  not  make  it  to  the                                                                    
governors desk.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Steininger   said   that  altogether   the   education                                                                    
amendments  were a  package -  but each  could stand  on its                                                                    
own.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:23:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Merrick asked about the reading academy location.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger deferred to Heidi Teshner.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:23:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Heidi Teshner, Acting  Commissioner, Department of Education                                                                    
and  Early  Development  replied  that  it  would  have  its                                                                    
beginnings in  Anchorage, with an expectation  that it would                                                                    
eventually reach rural areas.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:24:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  asked about the  cost per student at  the old                                                                    
Alyeska Central School.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Teshner  said  that  the old  school  was  a  statewide                                                                    
correspondence school, and the new  school would be a brick-                                                                    
and-mortar  school. She  stated that  the $5,000.0  would be                                                                    
used  to  hire  staff  and  provide  direct  instruction  to                                                                    
students, as well as year-round training for instructors.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl asked for startup cost versus base cost.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Teshner agreed to provide the information.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:25:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman asked  whether  the  establishment of  the                                                                    
academy required legislation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Teshner replied in the negative.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  whether  the  effort  to  run  the                                                                    
academy would be ongoing by the state.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Teshner replied in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:25:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger referenced slide 3:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
             nd                                                                                                               
     March 22                                                                                                                 
     FY2024 Operating Budget Amendments                                                                                       
     Department of Revenue                                                                                                      
     Alaska Permanent Fund Corporation                                                                                          
     Salary and Benefits for Investment Management Support                                                                      
     $547.0 Other Funds                                                                                                         
    Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                          
     International Airports                                                                                                     
     Additional Mission Critical Incentive Pay $691.5 Other                                                                     
     Funds                                                                                                                      
     Operating Total $1,238.5 Other Funds                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     FY 2024 Capital Budget Amendments                                                                                        
     Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic                                                                            
     Development                                                                                                                
     Marine Exchange of Alaska  Alaska Vessel Tracking                                                                          
     System Upgrade $1,200.0 Other Funds                                                                                        
     Capital Total $1,200.0 Other Funds                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:28:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked if there  were any other uses for the                                                                    
$1.2 million or if it had to go to the MEA.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  informed  that  the  funds  had  a  federal                                                                    
restriction and had  to be used to benefit  the vessels that                                                                    
carried  the people  that generated  the head  tax. He  said                                                                    
that  the funds  could  be  used for  something  else if  it                                                                    
directly benefitted cruse ships that entered the state.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:28:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  asked whether it was  anticipated that the                                                                    
funds would be ongoing or a one-time increment.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger relayed that the  two items would be ongoing.                                                                    
The  MEA  item  was  in  the capital  budget  and  would  be                                                                    
reconsidered every year as part of the budget process.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:29:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop  asked  about   the  $691,000  for  Critical                                                                    
Mission Pay.  He thought that  Fairbanks had  been receiving                                                                    
less  pay  than  Anchorage and  wondered  whether  Fairbanks                                                                    
employees would be  paid retroactively to catch  up with the                                                                    
Anchorage rate.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  noted that  the  item  was  for FY  24  and                                                                    
recalled that  there was funding in  the Supplemental Budget                                                                    
to catch Fairbanks up with Anchorage.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:30:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson shared  that he  had received  a phone  call                                                                    
over the weekend from the  assistant chief pilot at Northern                                                                    
Air Cargo.  He said that  there was  a lack of  operators in                                                                    
rural  Alaska. He  wondered if  there was  anything to  help                                                                    
with the lack  of support in the area. He  recalled that the                                                                    
airport  in Kotzebue  had  shut  down for  two  days due  to                                                                    
illness.  He asked  about potential  funds for  Kotzebue and                                                                    
Nome to keep their airports functional.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  responded that the  areas were "not  in this                                                                    
package."  He noted  that the  Department of  Transportation                                                                    
and  Public  Facilities  had  brought   the  matter  to  the                                                                    
attention  of OMB  only recently  and the  matter was  under                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson asked  when he  could inform  people in  his                                                                    
district that  resources would be  available to  address the                                                                    
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  relayed that he  would need to speak  to the                                                                    
commissioner of DOT&PF.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:32:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman requested  that Mr.  Steininger convey  to                                                                    
the commissioner  that there were  needs in the  whole state                                                                    
of Alaska and not only Anchorage.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked Mr.  Steininger to  get back  to the                                                                    
committee with additional information  on how the department                                                                    
planned to provide equal support to all areas of the state.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:33:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger   advanced  to  slide  4,   which  addressed                                                                    
amendments to  the FY23 Supplemental  Budget. He  pointed to                                                                    
the first  line which  listed $3,717.3  in UGF  spending for                                                                    
Judgements, Settlements,  and Claims  against the  state. He                                                                    
said that  the Supplemental Capital Budget  showed a balance                                                                    
from a prior year in  the Division of Elections, which would                                                                    
be  reappropriated.   He  shared  that  the   Department  of                                                                    
Transportation and Public Facilities  (DOT&PF) had a balance                                                                    
of $9,070.7,  which would  be reappropriated  for emergency,                                                                    
catastrophic  events,  and unforeseen  critical  maintenance                                                                    
needs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  was sure the  capital budget  chairman was                                                                    
happy  to   look  at   the  proposed   reappropriations  for                                                                    
consideration in the FY24 Capital  Budget. He requested more                                                                    
information  regarding  the   judgements,  settlements,  and                                                                    
claims.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger noted  that the Department of  Law was online                                                                    
for questions.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked Mr. Steininger to  discuss the cases                                                                    
to the best of his ability.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger listed:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Wilkerson v. State of Alaska, Department of Law                                                                            
     $1,484,329.17                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Juneau v. Department of Transportation and Public                                                                          
     Facilities    (Procurement    Act    Contract    Claim)                                                                    
     $586,316.41 and $213,683.59(2 payees)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Estate of Aaron Thomas Smith v. State of Alaska, DPS                                                                       
     $300,000.00                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Amaroq Resources, LLC v AOGCC $15,309.50                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Thompson et. al v. Hebdon et al $582,789.20 and                                                                            
     $417,928.75 (2 payees)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:37:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman commented  that  in  the operating  budget                                                                    
each   year  there   was  a   section  for   Judgements  and                                                                    
Settlements, and  Claims in which  the state paid  for being                                                                    
on the losing end of court cases brought against the state.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:37:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  asked whether the  case involved the  City of                                                                    
Juneau or an office in Juneau.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  for further  detail concerning  the                                                                    
$800,000 case.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:38:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CORI MILLS, DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL,  DEPARTMENT OF LAW (via                                                                    
teleconference),  relayed  that  the  case  pertained  to  a                                                                    
contractor that had entered into  a lease agreement with the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  for a  brief synopsis  of the  $1.5                                                                    
million settlement.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills  relayed that  there was  an employment  case. The                                                                    
employee had worked for the  Department of Law (LAW) and her                                                                    
employment   had   been   terminated.  The   employee,   Ms.                                                                    
Wilkerson, sued for wrongful  termination. Ms. Wilkerson had                                                                    
been successful  in the  case and the  jury had  awarded the                                                                    
attorney fees and costs of $1.5 million.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:39:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Merrick  observed that some  interest rates  were at                                                                    
7.5  percent and  some at  3.25 percent.  She wondered  what                                                                    
determined the interest rates.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  believed the interest rates  were determined                                                                    
by the terms of the settlements but deferred to Ms. Mills.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:39:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mills  explained that the different  interest rates were                                                                    
set by  the court and  were dependent  on the action  of the                                                                    
court.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:40:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  queried how  much was  spent on  the cases                                                                    
under discussion.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked  Ms. Mills to provide  a breakdown of                                                                    
the costs of  the cases, including a brief  synopsis of each                                                                    
case.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mills agreed  to provide  the  information and  assumed                                                                    
that the committee wanted the internal costs of each case.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman replied in the affirmative.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:41:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  thanked  the   committee  for  hearing  the                                                                    
amendments  after  the  statutory deadline.  He  noted  that                                                                    
bargaining  unit  contracts  were still  pending,  and  once                                                                    
concluded,  monetary  terms  of  agreement  (MOA)  would  be                                                                    
submitted to the legislature.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  Mr.  Steininger  to keep  committee                                                                    
staff  posted  on  the  range  of  potential  judgments  and                                                                    
settlements.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   thanked   OMB  and   other   department                                                                    
representatives for their time.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed housekeeping.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
9:43:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:43 a.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
23.03.27 OMB March 7th and 22nd Amendments Overview SFIN.pdf SFIN 3/27/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 40, SB 41, SB 42, SB 54
HB 79 23.03.27 OMB Fast Track Supplemental Budget Overview SFIN.pdf SFIN 3/27/2023 9:00:00 AM
HB 79